DeChrii
Apr 25, 06:12 AM
i'll most likely get one as much as i would want to wait for the iphone 5... but that way i get vzn's unlimited data if they remove it in the summer...hopefully be grandfathered too after the contract for another 2 years etc.
Skoal
Mar 25, 07:10 PM
"radically improve" the Maps application"
YES, about time!
YES, about time!
xUKHCx
Apr 7, 05:39 AM
how many Xserves are in that data centre? oh sorry I meant Mac minis...
Just doing the maths on how many Mac Minis it takes to get a Yottabyte of storage...
To get that much storage you would need 1,000,000,000,000 Mac Mini Servers which costed at full retail is 70x the US national debt.
Apple's 500,000 sq ft data centre usuing Doctor Q's 10 fot of usuable vertical space could hold 104,088,861 not accounting for heat dissapation cabling storage racks etc. Therefore you would need 9,607 data centres of the size of apple's current (which was rumored to cost $1billion). However that is a storage facility literally filled with no walking space between the racks or anything like that so a sensible suggestion would be to double that.
The total size of this project would be 9,607,000,000 sq ft or 344 sq miles. Turks and Caicos Islands (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turks_and_Caicos_Islands) happens to 366 sq miles, although to allow for expansion, shipping port/airport and power plants and other ancilallry buildings such as worker housing, supermarket and such I would suggest that Hong Kong with an area of 426 sq miles is a good place to start. Although given the high population of Hong Kong it isn't an ideal place to build such a facility, therefore the Faroe Islands with a size of 538 miles might be the first sensible place to wipe out. Alternatively you could just dump it in Texas/Alaska as they have plenty of land spare. Alaska would give you natural cooling which would be a bonus over Texas although can you image the series of Ice Road truckers, "In this haul is 100,000 Mac Minis."
All in all to go for something like large with some as inappropriate as a Mac Mini is a costly and ultimately bonkers idea.
Fingers crossed that the sums are correct.
Just doing the maths on how many Mac Minis it takes to get a Yottabyte of storage...
To get that much storage you would need 1,000,000,000,000 Mac Mini Servers which costed at full retail is 70x the US national debt.
Apple's 500,000 sq ft data centre usuing Doctor Q's 10 fot of usuable vertical space could hold 104,088,861 not accounting for heat dissapation cabling storage racks etc. Therefore you would need 9,607 data centres of the size of apple's current (which was rumored to cost $1billion). However that is a storage facility literally filled with no walking space between the racks or anything like that so a sensible suggestion would be to double that.
The total size of this project would be 9,607,000,000 sq ft or 344 sq miles. Turks and Caicos Islands (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turks_and_Caicos_Islands) happens to 366 sq miles, although to allow for expansion, shipping port/airport and power plants and other ancilallry buildings such as worker housing, supermarket and such I would suggest that Hong Kong with an area of 426 sq miles is a good place to start. Although given the high population of Hong Kong it isn't an ideal place to build such a facility, therefore the Faroe Islands with a size of 538 miles might be the first sensible place to wipe out. Alternatively you could just dump it in Texas/Alaska as they have plenty of land spare. Alaska would give you natural cooling which would be a bonus over Texas although can you image the series of Ice Road truckers, "In this haul is 100,000 Mac Minis."
All in all to go for something like large with some as inappropriate as a Mac Mini is a costly and ultimately bonkers idea.
Fingers crossed that the sums are correct.
iLikeMyiMac
Aug 14, 07:57 PM
Cool what did you use to make it?
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Eric-PTEK
Dec 26, 03:14 PM
Everyone who has said something against Mac's in a business environment is right.
Everyone who has harped on downtime for PC's is wrong.
I often wonder where this mystical downtime associated with PC's is?
Sure PC's can get viruses, and yes, viruses can cause downtime. If downtime is that important, get a IPS.
If downtime is so important buy a better warranty. I sell Lenovo's as a standard business desktop, $549 w/ a 3 year NBD on site warranty, can't wait NBD, tack on another $90 for a 4 hour response warranty.
If up time is important than you do things to mitigate that downtime, and I don't care if you add up every single thing out there to mitigate that risk you won't come close to the cost of implementing Mac hardware.
And that's not even getting into software compatability, backup, service, and all the other things mentioned here.
I have never, EVER, had a user call me due to downtime on a virus or anything else where we had put in a proper security system. User security, IPS, network security, etc.
I rarely even have my customers use their warranties, even though we sell them with each machine. I've had one bad PS in a HP Server in the past 2 years and that was a installation error. The customer had a new phone system installed and for some reason the installer decided to move their server connection to the phone system's UPS, which is not capable of protecting the server.
I sell uptime and business continuity and Mac's don't offer it. It's also obvious Apple wants no part of it by getting rid of the Xserve's, but even before that their absolutely INSANE 30K or whatever it was for 1 year of on site warranty was ridiculous.
Still, even if they fixed all that, SharePoint is an app killer for Mac's, without ActiveX its useless to most business customers.
Specifically mention how video resources can easily be composed with OSX Server's Podcast Producer and served to mac's iPhones/iPad.
Another aspect ... no NEED to purchase different PDF volume licenses for Adobe Pro/Standard 9/10 for simple editing [I'm unsure if Preview can edit Tables/create them].
MS Office is now properly available for OSX and is up to par with 2010 for Windows: including ability to import, edit and add-on to PST files. This will be an important mention.
* Key point. Mention a server based email anti-virus license solution - for outbound emails, or FTP/Sharepoint sites that have files uploaded to Windows users that your company/employees communicate with.
* MS Office Communicator [OCS] is now available and COMPLETELY compatible for Mac - part of Office 2011 as I'm ALREADY doing this without need for a VPN connection [using OWA settings] with corporation contacts in OCS.
* more standardized ordering of hardware makes support MUCH MUCH easier. Having a high level apple certification for both hardware/server - makes your argument THAT MUCH more sound and heard in a more official and presentable voice.
* Mention how Open Directory supports Active Directory infrastructure - again certification and a direct line of specific Apple support in this respect WILL be crucial and helpful.
Wrong. We're a SharePoint Developer, yes if you want a pretty calendar for all to see Safari cuts it, beyond that its not even close.
Sharepoint Workspace does 10 times as much as the Mac SharePoint app. The Mac SharePoint app is there to make up for the lack of some ActiveX connectivity but you cannot sync entire projects offline.
What good is open directory? I can manage every single thing on every single Windows box, can't do that with a Mac.
You have 100 PC's and you want to publish a new SharePoint list to Outlook for every user.
How do you do it without Active Directory and group policies...well first, SharePoint lists don't work in Outlook for the Mac so guess you'd stop there.
All your doing is wasting your companies time, effort, and money, trying to shoe horn something in there that should not be just because.
You want standard hardware, fine, go pick a spec and buy it. Who exactly from Apple is going to come out and fix the computer, no one. Yet you can get same day on site service from IBM, Lenovo, and Dell, cheap.
Mac's in a business environment make no logical sense, it is an emotional decision because when put down on paper and looked at from a TCO/ROI aspect they will always come out on the losing end.
I could go on and on, but this is a productivity issue: I am not as productive on Windows as I am on a Mac. Microsoft has been in disarray for years and it shows. Why on Server 2008 does the utility "Server Management" and "Manage Server" point to 2 totally different applications? Sounds like someone is shipping off projects to India and not paying attention.
Now before I get accused of MS bashing, I will point out that MS makes excellent front-end applications such as Office. This is where the company shines (Access is really great product). They just make crappy operating systems and servers.
Windows Server 2008 does not have a Manage Server option, and in fact its Manage My Server. SBS has that, but not server 2008.
Crappy servers? Really, find me anyone, anyone, who is a system admin, who complains about MS's server operating systems?
They are rock solid. I've never had a single server crash, not a one. They run, night and day, without problems.
If you think servers are for sharing data then it shows how little people know about the true reason you put in a server. You manage entire networks with them.
1. I have had to fix the registry twice after installing Opera -if you install that into Windows 7 the system starts generating security errors and warnings, and you can no longer open hyperlinks in Outlook. This is Microsoft preventing you from installing 3rd party browsers into Windows 7 -I don't have these issues on my Mac (I run 3 browsers there)
Really, then why not do it all via GPO and be done with it? It has nothing to do with MS stopping you from installing browsers. I'd question the common sense of installing some 3rd party little known browser in a business environment.
The fact your using the windows installer to push out an app in a business environment with AD available to you is a problem in itself. If you need to install software and then push out REG patches it can all be done via GPO in 1 step.
I look after 250+ macs across 8 advertising companies across 3 countries.
Snip...
All very true. I would guess however that your industry is more Mac centric and your setup while most likely robust was not something that was put together in a day.
The value of running a Mac for business reasons outweighs the extra cost of managing your system. The integration software is not cheap, I'd suspect you make a good bit more than a standard system admin, and if you don't, you should because of the stuff your running.
I'm sure your system works well, but I'd also guess your system cost quite a bit more to implement than something all Windows based.
Your company did it for a business reason, not just because, which is what a lot of these answers are here, lets just run Mac's because.
If Mac's made more business sense to a customer I'd be all over it, value is what you need to provide. I had a customer, 9 Mac's, 2 PC's, once we sat down and looked at what it cost to do it the right way, like your doing it, out went the Mac's. There was no specific reason for them to stay on Mac's.
As far as the comment on the Enterprise vs the smaller business. We implement Enterprise quality systems in small businesses. That is our business model. It is not expensive at all, at least today. I doubt we could do what we do today for the cost 5-6 years ago.
MS is not stupid, they are creating a lot of solid smaller business apps that are cost effective.
Everyone who has harped on downtime for PC's is wrong.
I often wonder where this mystical downtime associated with PC's is?
Sure PC's can get viruses, and yes, viruses can cause downtime. If downtime is that important, get a IPS.
If downtime is so important buy a better warranty. I sell Lenovo's as a standard business desktop, $549 w/ a 3 year NBD on site warranty, can't wait NBD, tack on another $90 for a 4 hour response warranty.
If up time is important than you do things to mitigate that downtime, and I don't care if you add up every single thing out there to mitigate that risk you won't come close to the cost of implementing Mac hardware.
And that's not even getting into software compatability, backup, service, and all the other things mentioned here.
I have never, EVER, had a user call me due to downtime on a virus or anything else where we had put in a proper security system. User security, IPS, network security, etc.
I rarely even have my customers use their warranties, even though we sell them with each machine. I've had one bad PS in a HP Server in the past 2 years and that was a installation error. The customer had a new phone system installed and for some reason the installer decided to move their server connection to the phone system's UPS, which is not capable of protecting the server.
I sell uptime and business continuity and Mac's don't offer it. It's also obvious Apple wants no part of it by getting rid of the Xserve's, but even before that their absolutely INSANE 30K or whatever it was for 1 year of on site warranty was ridiculous.
Still, even if they fixed all that, SharePoint is an app killer for Mac's, without ActiveX its useless to most business customers.
Specifically mention how video resources can easily be composed with OSX Server's Podcast Producer and served to mac's iPhones/iPad.
Another aspect ... no NEED to purchase different PDF volume licenses for Adobe Pro/Standard 9/10 for simple editing [I'm unsure if Preview can edit Tables/create them].
MS Office is now properly available for OSX and is up to par with 2010 for Windows: including ability to import, edit and add-on to PST files. This will be an important mention.
* Key point. Mention a server based email anti-virus license solution - for outbound emails, or FTP/Sharepoint sites that have files uploaded to Windows users that your company/employees communicate with.
* MS Office Communicator [OCS] is now available and COMPLETELY compatible for Mac - part of Office 2011 as I'm ALREADY doing this without need for a VPN connection [using OWA settings] with corporation contacts in OCS.
* more standardized ordering of hardware makes support MUCH MUCH easier. Having a high level apple certification for both hardware/server - makes your argument THAT MUCH more sound and heard in a more official and presentable voice.
* Mention how Open Directory supports Active Directory infrastructure - again certification and a direct line of specific Apple support in this respect WILL be crucial and helpful.
Wrong. We're a SharePoint Developer, yes if you want a pretty calendar for all to see Safari cuts it, beyond that its not even close.
Sharepoint Workspace does 10 times as much as the Mac SharePoint app. The Mac SharePoint app is there to make up for the lack of some ActiveX connectivity but you cannot sync entire projects offline.
What good is open directory? I can manage every single thing on every single Windows box, can't do that with a Mac.
You have 100 PC's and you want to publish a new SharePoint list to Outlook for every user.
How do you do it without Active Directory and group policies...well first, SharePoint lists don't work in Outlook for the Mac so guess you'd stop there.
All your doing is wasting your companies time, effort, and money, trying to shoe horn something in there that should not be just because.
You want standard hardware, fine, go pick a spec and buy it. Who exactly from Apple is going to come out and fix the computer, no one. Yet you can get same day on site service from IBM, Lenovo, and Dell, cheap.
Mac's in a business environment make no logical sense, it is an emotional decision because when put down on paper and looked at from a TCO/ROI aspect they will always come out on the losing end.
I could go on and on, but this is a productivity issue: I am not as productive on Windows as I am on a Mac. Microsoft has been in disarray for years and it shows. Why on Server 2008 does the utility "Server Management" and "Manage Server" point to 2 totally different applications? Sounds like someone is shipping off projects to India and not paying attention.
Now before I get accused of MS bashing, I will point out that MS makes excellent front-end applications such as Office. This is where the company shines (Access is really great product). They just make crappy operating systems and servers.
Windows Server 2008 does not have a Manage Server option, and in fact its Manage My Server. SBS has that, but not server 2008.
Crappy servers? Really, find me anyone, anyone, who is a system admin, who complains about MS's server operating systems?
They are rock solid. I've never had a single server crash, not a one. They run, night and day, without problems.
If you think servers are for sharing data then it shows how little people know about the true reason you put in a server. You manage entire networks with them.
1. I have had to fix the registry twice after installing Opera -if you install that into Windows 7 the system starts generating security errors and warnings, and you can no longer open hyperlinks in Outlook. This is Microsoft preventing you from installing 3rd party browsers into Windows 7 -I don't have these issues on my Mac (I run 3 browsers there)
Really, then why not do it all via GPO and be done with it? It has nothing to do with MS stopping you from installing browsers. I'd question the common sense of installing some 3rd party little known browser in a business environment.
The fact your using the windows installer to push out an app in a business environment with AD available to you is a problem in itself. If you need to install software and then push out REG patches it can all be done via GPO in 1 step.
I look after 250+ macs across 8 advertising companies across 3 countries.
Snip...
All very true. I would guess however that your industry is more Mac centric and your setup while most likely robust was not something that was put together in a day.
The value of running a Mac for business reasons outweighs the extra cost of managing your system. The integration software is not cheap, I'd suspect you make a good bit more than a standard system admin, and if you don't, you should because of the stuff your running.
I'm sure your system works well, but I'd also guess your system cost quite a bit more to implement than something all Windows based.
Your company did it for a business reason, not just because, which is what a lot of these answers are here, lets just run Mac's because.
If Mac's made more business sense to a customer I'd be all over it, value is what you need to provide. I had a customer, 9 Mac's, 2 PC's, once we sat down and looked at what it cost to do it the right way, like your doing it, out went the Mac's. There was no specific reason for them to stay on Mac's.
As far as the comment on the Enterprise vs the smaller business. We implement Enterprise quality systems in small businesses. That is our business model. It is not expensive at all, at least today. I doubt we could do what we do today for the cost 5-6 years ago.
MS is not stupid, they are creating a lot of solid smaller business apps that are cost effective.
ethical
Aug 2, 03:04 PM
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http://thumbnails23.imagebam.com/9120/39670f91197156.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/39670f91197156)
Nice. Got links to some of the stuff? User folder icons and system files to make the list like that?
http://thumbnails23.imagebam.com/9120/39670f91197156.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/39670f91197156)
Nice. Got links to some of the stuff? User folder icons and system files to make the list like that?
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bigbadneil
Apr 22, 09:08 PM
I have just started my own webpage using iweb but wen I go to the webpage that apple set up for me it takes me to my google apps webpage that is blank.
I dont want to use the google apps page I want to use the iweb one how do I fix this??
Thanks
OK I have read up on this and I am totally lost and need this info
Server address xxxxxxxxxx
Username ndwgolf.com
Password ************
Directory path xxxxxxxxx
I need the xxxxxxx so that I can get this thing going, my domain was registered with enom but I am unable to log into there site
I dont want to use the google apps page I want to use the iweb one how do I fix this??
Thanks
OK I have read up on this and I am totally lost and need this info
Server address xxxxxxxxxx
Username ndwgolf.com
Password ************
Directory path xxxxxxxxx
I need the xxxxxxx so that I can get this thing going, my domain was registered with enom but I am unable to log into there site
W1MRK
Dec 25, 11:54 PM
$50 dollar gift card from apple that went for a trackpad.
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kironin
Apr 7, 06:31 PM
I've been getting "Call Failed" on about 25% of my phone call attempts since 4.3.1. It's really, really annoying.
I know several people that have upgraded and suddenly have lots of dropped calls and failed call attempts.
I know several people that have upgraded and suddenly have lots of dropped calls and failed call attempts.
jrko
Apr 16, 10:02 AM
well colour me confused if my MDD isn't running at 34 deg after being on for 3hrs.
Nap must be working despite the strange message - is that possible? I've read of it not showing cache sizes correctly etc so maybe it is.
Anyone?
Nap must be working despite the strange message - is that possible? I've read of it not showing cache sizes correctly etc so maybe it is.
Anyone?
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chrfr
Apr 5, 10:18 PM
I am thinking of pulling the trigger with some new hardware. As a student, I know a route I can take is the student Apple Developer program. After searching for the ADC store to use the discount I notice its gone! Does anyone know if this program still exists?
No, it's gone.
No, it's gone.
iStudentUK
Apr 16, 02:59 AM
Red is screwed, yellow is sucky, green is above replacement... You don't want birth rate to drop below 2.1, Turkey the only country above replacement is 2.14...
Yes, that is an issue for concern. However, how is this relevant to gay rights? Despite the birth rate in the UK being around 2 (1.96 if I remember correctly) there are, sadly, plenty of children/babies in need of a good home. Recently, the law was changed to ensure homosexuals would be able to adopted children if they want. Lesbian couples could also ask for a donor, and gay couples for a surrogate.
We need to move beyond the idea that marriage is about a man and a women reproducing. Firstly, it isn't about that. Secondly, there is no reason same-sex couples can't raise just as many children as heterosexual couples.
Yes, that is an issue for concern. However, how is this relevant to gay rights? Despite the birth rate in the UK being around 2 (1.96 if I remember correctly) there are, sadly, plenty of children/babies in need of a good home. Recently, the law was changed to ensure homosexuals would be able to adopted children if they want. Lesbian couples could also ask for a donor, and gay couples for a surrogate.
We need to move beyond the idea that marriage is about a man and a women reproducing. Firstly, it isn't about that. Secondly, there is no reason same-sex couples can't raise just as many children as heterosexual couples.
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swinneyn
Oct 28, 02:15 AM
I don't think this really looks at all like an apple ad but i thought I'd take a shot :)
kas23
Apr 13, 11:52 AM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_2 like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8C134 Safari/6533.18.5)
Actually, I hate to start a flamewar...As for my iPhone 4, it already seems a bit dated and laggy (takes 10 seconds to open Camera, laggy keyboard when searching in Maps, choppy animations in games). I think this is a software problem though. If Apple came out with a much more efficient and smoother iOS 5 (that made my iPhone 4 feel like a new phone), I would be perfectly satisfied.
What!? I've had my iPhone 4 for seven whole days and I have not had this happen on my phone. Camera takes about 2-3 seconds to open on my phone-I do not have keyboard lag under maps and I have seen some amazing graphics (and no 'choppiness') with some of the games on my phone ('Death Rally' anyone?).
You might be having some problems with your phone-I haven't come across similar threads with your reported problems. I don't see this as a symptom of the iPhone 4 as being "a bit dated".
If you havent seen any threads on choppy animations and a lag when opening up the Camera app, you likely haven't been to the iPhone forum. My problems are not unique. And if you think about it, 2-3 seconds to have the ability to shoot a picture is still way too long.
And besides, your phone is a full 7 days old. It's brand new! Everyone would expect it to be functioning perfectly. Mine is 10 months-old and feels long in the tooth.
Actually, I hate to start a flamewar...As for my iPhone 4, it already seems a bit dated and laggy (takes 10 seconds to open Camera, laggy keyboard when searching in Maps, choppy animations in games). I think this is a software problem though. If Apple came out with a much more efficient and smoother iOS 5 (that made my iPhone 4 feel like a new phone), I would be perfectly satisfied.
What!? I've had my iPhone 4 for seven whole days and I have not had this happen on my phone. Camera takes about 2-3 seconds to open on my phone-I do not have keyboard lag under maps and I have seen some amazing graphics (and no 'choppiness') with some of the games on my phone ('Death Rally' anyone?).
You might be having some problems with your phone-I haven't come across similar threads with your reported problems. I don't see this as a symptom of the iPhone 4 as being "a bit dated".
If you havent seen any threads on choppy animations and a lag when opening up the Camera app, you likely haven't been to the iPhone forum. My problems are not unique. And if you think about it, 2-3 seconds to have the ability to shoot a picture is still way too long.
And besides, your phone is a full 7 days old. It's brand new! Everyone would expect it to be functioning perfectly. Mine is 10 months-old and feels long in the tooth.
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Moyank24
Apr 26, 11:21 PM
What makes lesbian porn so likable?
:eek:
I fear what some of the responses will be.
:eek:
I fear what some of the responses will be.
Kuriakose
Apr 8, 01:43 AM
I currently have a Macbook A1278, I was wondering if i can replace the upper case of my labtop. I am having trouble in finding a guide on how to replace it.
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Penguissimo
Mar 30, 11:29 PM
Unfortunately the lowest version of PT that will run on Snow Leopard is 8.0.4. You'll have to stay on 10.5 or get an upgrade to at least PT 8.
Sorry :(
Sorry :(
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Kingsly
Oct 19, 12:37 AM
I like it. loose the comma, perhaps?:)
tigress666
Apr 6, 12:56 PM
I cut it off b/c it was irrelevant. Not because I was avoiding it...and come to think of it, what exactly was avoided? If some want to go to Verizon, so be it. It may cost them more money but some leave for the principal of it. If my unlimited got cut off, I would move to Verizon in a heartbeat even though it would cost me a bit more. I would not want AT&T getting my business anymore.
You mentioned people hissy fitting (for whatever reason) and I mentioned that many do throw but many others are throwing them for legitimate reasons
Because I was aiming that at people who were throwing a hissy fit and going to Verizon. So your point had nothing to do with mine!! I wasn't addressing everyone upset with the price increase. ANd yes, I do think going to some one who will end up being worse than the company you are pissed at in the regards of what you are pissed at as throwing a hissy fit! It would be one thing if you were changing and Verizon cost more but you were pissed at AT&T cause you hated their customer service. But being pissed cause they made a deal they had less of a deal and going to a place that doesn't even offer that deal in the first place? I call that throwing a hissy fit and making no sense.
Oh, AT&T isn't doing this for money? What exactly went up cost wise with AT&T and the iPhone 5?
Oh, cost of running business? Cost of upkeep of equipment, cost of upkeep of building and building rent. Cost of wages because as prices go up everywhere cost of living goes up therefore you end up giving people a pay reduction if you don't reflect cost of living increases in wage increases? Not everything is tied down to just the prices of the phones (after all, it's not just the iphone that is increasing in price). And their cost of running a business will reflect in their prices. They aren't a charity and if their costs increase, they will reflect that in prices to the extent that they can do it without losing too much revenue (they do keep in mind what will keep them the most profit and that does include losing business).
Oh, and let me add, yeah, you're right, they are doing it for the money. So is Verizon, so is Apple. Everything a business does is for the money. That is what they are there for. To make money so their employees can afford to buy stuff and make a living. You're living in a dream world if you think any business is there to be nice to you.
You mentioned people hissy fitting (for whatever reason) and I mentioned that many do throw but many others are throwing them for legitimate reasons
Because I was aiming that at people who were throwing a hissy fit and going to Verizon. So your point had nothing to do with mine!! I wasn't addressing everyone upset with the price increase. ANd yes, I do think going to some one who will end up being worse than the company you are pissed at in the regards of what you are pissed at as throwing a hissy fit! It would be one thing if you were changing and Verizon cost more but you were pissed at AT&T cause you hated their customer service. But being pissed cause they made a deal they had less of a deal and going to a place that doesn't even offer that deal in the first place? I call that throwing a hissy fit and making no sense.
Oh, AT&T isn't doing this for money? What exactly went up cost wise with AT&T and the iPhone 5?
Oh, cost of running business? Cost of upkeep of equipment, cost of upkeep of building and building rent. Cost of wages because as prices go up everywhere cost of living goes up therefore you end up giving people a pay reduction if you don't reflect cost of living increases in wage increases? Not everything is tied down to just the prices of the phones (after all, it's not just the iphone that is increasing in price). And their cost of running a business will reflect in their prices. They aren't a charity and if their costs increase, they will reflect that in prices to the extent that they can do it without losing too much revenue (they do keep in mind what will keep them the most profit and that does include losing business).
Oh, and let me add, yeah, you're right, they are doing it for the money. So is Verizon, so is Apple. Everything a business does is for the money. That is what they are there for. To make money so their employees can afford to buy stuff and make a living. You're living in a dream world if you think any business is there to be nice to you.
swinneyn
Oct 17, 08:12 PM
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Macsterguy
Apr 7, 03:53 PM
I must have spent $1000 in quarters on BattleZone and Lunar Lander...
LaLLLy
Apr 10, 09:48 PM
Sure thing, enjoy!
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thank you!
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thank you!
Peterkro
Feb 15, 08:09 AM
Good God Edesign you caught that Napster double post in less than a minute. :eek:
BillyBobBongo
Oct 6, 04:14 AM
Mine for the moment.
I really like that, gonna go make myself a version of this now! :)
I really like that, gonna go make myself a version of this now! :)
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